Mark Alexander ([info]opus119) wrote,

Cleaning Up

I had to take two days off from work last week to clean up the mess left by my kids at my previous home. I had to do the same thing a year and a half ago at the home we lived in before this one.

Friends say I was too easy on my kids and should never have let them get away with leaving messes for me to clean up. That is probably true. But I think there is more to it than being a lax parent. It strikes me as an example on a very small scale of The Tragedy of the Commons. A shared resource (a home, in this case) will inevitably be trashed by the messier people, lowering the value of the resource for all who use it. This is one reason (among many) why the idea of living with other people again terrifies me now.


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[info]who_is_she

July 26 2005, 21:33:19 UTC 6 years ago

this is why shared values, and agreements, are so important in building a family. It is important to find people who feel the same way you do about upkeep and caring for their surroundings (for example) and if the people's view differs significantly, then agreement can be structured in order to maintain a negotiated level of order and cleanliness.

IF the agreements are not followed, then there have to be consequences, or the whole structure of the agreement begins to be eroded, and is eventually no longer providing any structure.

This is why I consider both values AND agreements to be crucial things to consider in who I let close to me, and to my physical space.

I understand your feeling terrified. but it's also true that not everyone will treat shared resources like your kids did.

(hugs)

[info]opus119

July 27 2005, 19:47:55 UTC 6 years ago

I tried agreements in the last house I lived in with the kids, but they were not upheld.

As for shared values, it's something you can look for when choosing one's intentional family members. But with one's unintentional (biological) family, it's a matter of luck. I tried setting examples for my kids, but my spouse's example was apparently the more powerful one.

[info]who_is_she

July 27 2005, 21:49:10 UTC 6 years ago

you bring up an important point: when an agreement is made, there needs to be a consequence for what will happen if the aggreement goes awry. Whether that is a time out period and then a re-adjustment, or a complete null and void of the agreement when it is breached, there has to be some discussion of consequences. When two or more parties make an agreement.. I suppose they are both in charge of upholding it, and of reminding the other parties of the impending consequences.

This is one difficulty in making agreemnets between individuals. there is no judge or jury to 'uphold' things. there is just the individuals, interpreting the agreement as they see fit, as they prefer.

I think the situation with your kids was a very complex one. It is over now, and in any future interactions with them... you'll have a better sense of autonomy. I think this is true.
:)
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